Ministry of External Affairs Government of India

Official Spokesperson, Shri Raveesh Kumar: Friends, Namaskar, good afternoon and welcome to this weekly briefing. I have no announcements to make so I open the floor to questions.

Question: Kuch din pahle, 13 September ko Imran Khan ne Mujaffrabad mein ek rally mein kahaa thaa ki main aapko bataaungaa kii LOC kii taraf kab kooch karna hai. Ek khabar ye aa rahi hai ki ek badii taadaad mein log wahaan par ikatthaa ho rahe hain aur wo LOC ki taraf kooch karenge. Is move ko aap kaise dekhate hain aur iske liye government kii kyaa taiyaari hai?

(Few days ago, on 13th September, Imran Khan in a rally in Mujaffrabad said that I will tell you when you all should move towards LOC. There are news reports that a lot of people are assembling on that side and they will move towards LOC. How do you see this move and what are the preparations of government in this regard?)

Official Spokesperson, Shri Raveesh Kumar: Dekhiye pahli baar is type ka bayaan Pakistan kii taraf se nahii aayaa hai, Pakistan ke Pradhanmantri ek high constitutional office ko occupy karte hain aur iske pahle bhi unhone is type ka bayaan diyaa hai. Aap logon ne UNGA ke unke bayaan ko bhi sunaa hai aur aisi hi kaafi provocative aur irresponsible language unhone use kii hai. Do-teen cheezein main bataana chaahungaa, ek to jo is tarah kii bayaanbaazi hai, jo irresponsible and provocative hai uskii hum kade shabdon mei nindaa karte hain. Mujhe lagta hai ki ek to unko jaankaari nahi hai ki international relations conduct kaise kiya jaata hai aur uske balboote par kabhi-kabhi wo aise bayaan kar paate hain par jo sabse jyada serious baat hai, unhone jo open call diyaa thaa, jaisa aap bataa rahe hain ki aap log kooch karo, march karo. Unhone open call diyaa thaa jihaad ke liye ki hum sab log against India Jihad karenge. Ye normal behavior to hai nahi aur hum baar baar kahte aaye hain ki Pakistan aur Pakistan ke leaders ko jaise ek padosi mulk ko behave karna chaahiye, waisi hi behavior kii apekshaa karte to nahi hain lekin fir bhi padosi hain to kabhi kabhi karna padta hai. Aur jahaan tak unka ye call hai ki aap yahaan se jaakar kisi doosare desh kii sovereignty aur territorial integrity ko violate karo, mujhe lagta hai ki wo jis office ko occupy karte hain wo uske kaabil nahi hain.

(See, this is not the first time that this type of a statement has come from Pakistan. Prime Minister of Pakistan occupies a high constitutional office and earlier also he had made this type of statements. You all have heard his statement in UNGA, there also he used very provocative and irresponsible language. I would like to point out a few things. We strongly condemn this type of irresponsible and provocative statements by Pakistan. I think he has no knowledge as to how international relations are conducted and because of this ignorance he is able to make such statements. And the most serious among them is his open call to march towards LOC, which you mentioned. He made an open call for Jihad saying we should all conduct Jihad against India. This is not a normal behavior. We have said this time and again to Pakistan and its leaders that they should behave like a normal neighbor, although we don’t expect this kind of normal behavior from them but since we are neighbors so sometimes we do expect them to behave normally. And as far as their call of going to another country and violate the sovereignty and territorial integrity of that country, I think the office which he occupies, he is not fit for it.)

Question: One, from UNGA we saw Malaysia and Turkey discussing and talking about Kashmir from UNGA, what do you have to say on that, and also Pakistan claimed 58 countries backing them, have you got the list, I mean, do you have any idea because Pakistanis are not reacting to that.

Official Spokesperson, Shri Raveesh Kumar: Have you got the list, nobody has seen the list. I think this is a question that should be addressed to them and this is something which they have been claiming from the beginning and I don’t think they have been able to show this list of countries. In fact I saw this interview where somebody asked the foreign minister about the list of countries and they were not able to produce. I think sometimes they kind of make up the numbers which they did and at a time when people are asking them to show the list, they don’t have.

As far as the statements by Turkey and Malaysia are concerned, you see, for Turkey I can say that we are friendly countries and therefore we deeply regret that since 6th August there have been repeated statements by the Turkish government, from their foreign ministry on a matter which is completely internal to India. These statements are factually incorrect, biased and unwarranted. We call upon the Government of Turkey to get a proper understanding of the situation on the ground before they make any further statements on this issue.

As far as the statement by Malaysian Prime Minister is concerned, we have had traditionally good and friendly ties with Malaysia and if you look, in the recent years these relations have actually strengthened and therefore we actually again were quite surprised and we deeply regret that the comments which were made by the Prime Minister of Malaysia, again it is not based on facts and the facts of the matter has been articulated by our External Affairs Minister, Prime Minister and all of us on several occasions. Basically three points which I thought I will highlight.

The first is the state of Jammu & Kashmir, they signed the instrument of accession like all other princely states which existed at that point of time. Number two, Pakistan invaded and illegally occupied parts of Jammu & Kashmir, a fact which has been recognized by the United Nations and international community. And third that the current development in Jammu & Kashmir and Ladakh is a purely internal matter of India and does not involve any third country. The government of Malaysia should bear in mind the friendly relations between our two countries and desist from making such remarks.

Question: Any updates on political clearance to Arvind Kejriwal because his visit?

Official Spokesperson, Shri Raveesh Kumar: Normally I do not answer any query specific to political clearance and if you understand how the whole thing functions. We get hundreds of political clearances and requests every month you know from ministers, from secretaries, from bureaucrats. I can just explain to you how the process functions.

A decision is taken based on multiple inputs. Some of the inputs we get from the mission and it takes into account the nature of the event where the person is going to participate. It takes into account the level of participation from other countries and also the kind of invitation which has been extended and why do we do all this, it is very simple that if there is any event taking place abroad where a certain individual has been invited and you have representation from other countries which is at very lower level. In that case we do advise the person concerned that look, this event is not fit to be attended by a minister. This does not warrant the presence of a minister. Now this is the process which is involved. So beyond this I really don’t want to make any specific comment on individual political clearance. The overall objective is to ensure that the prestige of the country is not compromised.

Question: Chunki Bangladesh kii pradhanmantri abhi Delhi mein hii hain aur kal mulaqat bhi PM ki. Isase pahle unka ek bayaan aayaa hai ki Mr. Modi ne unko NRC par lekar kuchh aashwaasan diyaa hai. Aap uske baare mein kuch bataa sakein.

(Since Bangladesh PM is in India and tomorrow a meeting with Indian Prime Minister is also scheduled, there was a statement from her that Mr. Modi has given her assurance regarding the NRC. Can you tell us something about that?)

Question: Just a simple question like what is the agenda of the talks and what are the three projects that both prime ministers are going to inaugurate?

Question: The price of onions is proving to be a problem in Bangladesh because of what India has done i.e. stopping of exports.

Question: The Bangladesh Foreign Minister pre-departure statement had expressed concerns over the killings on the border by the BSF. So this seems to be an old thing, this seems to be an old thing that is now coming back after 5-6 years.

Question: Will the talks between PM Modi and Sheikh Hasina tomorrow focus on NRC, what are the main issues and how big the NRC issue will figure tomorrow?

Question: When the Home Minister and other senior ministers are saying that NRC rejects will be deported back to Bangladesh, your ministry stand is it’s an internal issue of India, now how will you explain this apparent contradiction to Sheikh Hasina, the visiting prime minister?

Official Spokesperson, Shri Raveesh Kumar: Frankly at this point of time I am not going to pre-judge what is going to be discussed but I can just give you some pointers. Number one, we of course warmly welcome Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina to India. She arrived yesterday and we are looking forward to the main day of engagement which is tomorrow. She is having delegation level talks with the Prime Minister, she is also calling on the President, EAM is calling on her. We expect that around 6 to 7 documents will be signed in the fields of transport, connectivity, capacity building and culture. The two leaders will jointly inaugurate three projects. I will not share which projects, that you all will get to know tomorrow.

Because the relations have never been so close naturally the focus of discussion will be on the bilateral relationship. It could cover trade and connectivity and look, when I say bilateral relationship, we are talking about the next steps in the bilateral relationship you know, what are the steps the two countries should take now to get the relationship into a different trajectory.

Trade and connectivity is one, development cooperation is another, people to people ties, culture and other issues of mutual interests will be discussed.

On NRC, we have been saying that this is a Supreme Court mandated process. It is an ongoing exercise and therefore from MEA perspective there is nothing that I can add at this stage. I think it is important to understand that the due process, which we have said in the past, is to be completed first and there are several appellate process before you reach that stage.

On the incidents on the border, I think it is important to understand that due to concerted efforts by the two sides, by the security agencies and border guards from both countries and under the leadership of the two prime ministers, the number of such incidents have actually come down drastically. But what we are doing now, we are trying to discuss and see following the demarcation of the land boundary agreement whether we can bring these incidents to zero. How this is to be done, I think this is to be discussed between the two sides but as far as the isolated incidents are concerned, it is regretted by both sides and both countries, the border guards from both countries will try to see if such incidents does not happen and we should always try to avoid such incidents.

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Official Spokesperson, Shri Raveesh Kumar: Look, that is what I am saying, you know the position which we have on Teesta. I do not actually want to, at this stage, prejudge what will happen but the government of Bangladesh is aware about our position in this regard. It is not the first time that we have shared our position and it will not be the first time we will be sharing it with them. I think what is important to note that apart from Teesta there are at least seven other trans-border rivers and there is an early meeting of joint water commission which is held at the level of secretary, that meeting is going to take place very soon.

On the onions, yes, we did see the statement made by the Prime Minister. We are trying to see how we can accommodate the concerns which has been reflected by the Prime Minister of Bangladesh.

Question: China ke Rashtrapati Xi Jinping Bharat aayenge, Mahabalipuram wo jaayenge, kya Chennai mei summit hoga, informal hoga, kuch jaankaari us par agar aap de paayein?

(Chinese President Xi Jinping will be visiting India and he will visit Mahabalipuram, will the informal summit be held in Chennai, can you give us some information on that?)

Official Spokesperson, Shri Raveesh Kumar: Dekhiye aisa hai ki aapne sab kuchh pahle se bataa diyaa, maine abhi tak visit announce nahii kiyaa hai visit.

(See, you announced everything before I announced the visit.)

We have not announced the visit of President Xi, we have not made any official announcements regarding the informal summit. I think you need to be patient. I can only tell you, which I have also said in the past, that during the first informal summit which took place in Wuhan it was decided that the next informal summit will take place in India in 2019. The informal summit gives a platform where the two leaders can have very direct, free and a candid exchange of views cutting across different issues. We are currently working on the visit with the Chinese side and we will make an announcement on the visit in due course. I am not in a position to make a formal announcement on the visit.

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Official Spokesperson, Shri Raveesh Kumar: Look, I am not going to comment on what other people are doing, what I am saying is that from my side I have not formally announced the visit. We are in touch with the Chinese side to prepare for the visit and we will make an announcement in due course.

Question: Punjab se CM ek chitthi likhhi hai EAM ko, Kartarpur Sahib gurdwara visit karne ke liye wo 21 members ka delegation lekar jaanaa chaahte hain as pilgrims, us par kuchh roshni daalenge, kis stage par hai vo request, Pradhanmantri se bhi is baare mei wo political clearance kii baat kar chuke hain?

(Punjab CM has written a letter to the EAM that he plans to visit Kartarpur Sahib Gurdwara with 21 member delegation as pilgrims. So could you throw some light on what is the status of that request, he has also spoke to Prime Minister regarding political clearance.)

Official Spokesperson, Shri Raveesh Kumar: Dekhiye, ek to ye baat samajhani padegi ki abhi hum apne Kartarpur Corridor mein kis stage par hain aur uske baat main bataaunga ki aapke sawaal ko kaise hum answer karenge.

Ek to sabse pahle main bataanaa chaahunga kii jo Kartarpur Corridor project hai uske liye hum abhi tak vachanbaddh hain aur commitment ka ye matlab hai ki jo infrastructure projects hamaari taraf se hain usko hum chaahenge ki wo samay rahte complete ho jaaye. Aapko pataa hai jo four lane highway thaa, wo complete ho gayaa hai aur jo state of the art passenger terminal hai wo samay rahte complete ho jaayega, uski deadline end of October hai.

Par ismein sabse badii baat samajhane kii hai ki jo hamne unke saath ek agreement share kii thii, us agreement mein kaafi cheezein thii ki uski modalities kya hongi, kaise kab jaayenge, kitne log jaayenge, uska jawaab abhi tak hamaare pass unse nahii aayaa hai. Humne unko ye bhi kahaa thaa ki aap is par flexibility dikhaayein, wo insist kar rahe hain fee ke liye, hum unko manaa kar rahe hain ki dekhiye ye sentiments kii baat hai, ye pilgrims kii baat hai aur unki bhawanaaon kii kadra karte hue agar aap is par insist naa karein, to iska jawaab abhii hamaare pass nahii aayaa hai.

Ham apeksha karte hain ki iskaa jawaab hamaare paas jald se jald aa jaaye. Ye jawaab aane ke baad hum us mode mein jaayenge ki kahaan par kyaa hogaa, kaun participate karegaa, aur aapko pataa hai ki jo Bharat kii taraf se inauguration hogaa usmein MEA ka role limited hotaa hai, usmein doosare mantralay hote hain, usmein state government hoti hai. Uske baare mein abhi jaankaari nahi hai, agar hai bhi to hamaari taraf se nahii aayegi, wo jinko bulaayaa gayaa hai jo jaayenge, unki taraf se aayegi. Filhaal mujhe abhi iske baare mein yahi kahna hai.

(See, first we need to understand where we stand at the Kartarpur Corridor issue and then I will tell you how we will answer your question.

First of all I would like to inform you that we are still Chofully committed to the Kartarpur Corridor project and by the commitment we mean that we would like that the infrastructure project on our side is completed well within time. You know that the four lane highway is completed and the state of the art passenger terminal will be completed within its deadline of end of October.

But the most important thing to understand in this is that we have shared an agreement with them on Kartarpur Corridor and that agreements has many things like what will be the modalities, how and when people will visit, how many will visit, we have not received any of these answers from them. We have also asked them to show some flexibility in this regard. They are insisting on fee and we are trying to persuade them, we told them see this is an issue of pilgrims and their sentiments, so respecting their emotions please do not insist on fee, we have not received any reply to this request also.

We expect that we get the reply to these at the earliest. After receiving the replied on these request then we will go that mode to decide what will happen where and who all will participate. And you must know that the inauguration which will be held on the Indian side MEA will have a very limited role in that. Other ministries and state government are more involved in that. There is no information on that and even if there is information then it will be shared by those who have been invited and who has invited them. So at this moment this is all that I have to say regarding this.)

Question: Diplomacy mein choice of words badaa matter karta hai, aapne ‘abhi tak’ kyon kahaa ki hum ‘abhi tak isko lekar katibaddha hain’ agar Pakistan hamari jo expectations hain agar unko fulfil na kare to ye postpone bhi ho sakta hai, number one. Number two, jo former Prime Minister Manmohan Singh ne jo Punjab CM ka request accept kiyaa hai that he will go through the corridor, matthha tek ka wo waapis aayenge, us par aapki kya pratikriyaa hai?

(See choice of words matter a lot in diplomacy. Why did you say we are still committed? If Pakistan doesn’t fulfills our expectations, can this be postponed also, number one. Number two, former Prime Minister Manmohan Singh has accepted the invitation of Punjab CM to go through the Corridor and he will come back by paying obeisance there, what is your reaction to that?)

Official Spokesperson, Shri Raveesh Kumar: Dekhiye, doosara waalaa to maine bataa diyaa ki abhi hum us stage par hain ki hamein Pakistan se reply milna hai. Dekhiye ye aisa maamla hai aur ye sentiments ka maamla hai, ismein posturing nahii hai hamaari, ismein ham wachanbaddh hain ki isko hamein karna hai. Hamaari Pakistan se yahi guzarish hai ki jo humne request kii hai, jo humne unke saath agreement share kiya hai uski reply wo jald se jald de dein jisase maamle aage badhe. To ismein aisaa kuchh nahi hai, koi kintu-parantu waali baat nahi hai, ye main aapko clarify karna chaahta hoon.

(See, I have answered the second one that we are still at that stage when we have yet to receive a reply from Pakistan. See, this is a matter of sentiments, we do not have any posturing in this matter, we are committed that we have to do it. This is our request to Pakistan that the request which we have made to them, the agreement which we have shared with them, they should reply at the earliest so that this thing can move forward. So I would like to clarify to you that there is no issue of ifs and buts in this matter.)

Question: Could you also elaborate on the Quad meeting that took place on the sidelines of the UNGA. It took place on the highest level for the first time, the foreign ministers of the four countries met. What would be the next level of cooperation, next meeting and some of the key project areas that they discussed?

Official Spokesperson, Shri Raveesh Kumar: I think it is important to understand, when you are looking at this meeting, that there are several other ministerial meetings which are being held between many other countries. You have the trilateral, quadrilateral, plurilateral meetings being done by different countries and there are different groupings. So I think what I would like to say, number one is that there is nothing much which should be read in to getting together of the four foreign ministers. They were there in New York.

You are aware that three rounds of official level meetings had taken place at the Quad level before it was decided to meet at the foreign ministers level. As far as the topics are concerned, we have spelt it out in our press release. Connectivity is one, common views on Indo-pacific another and how all the four countries can share perspectives on the situation in the region. So that is what we had mentioned in the press release. I don’t really kind of see what is going to happen in the future, so that is where I would like to leave it.

Question: Two questions, one is, any development as far as the Kulbhushan Jadhav case is concerned, last time you said that your going to implementation of the ICJ verdict and the consular access definition, any decision on it, at least we are going to seek the second one? The second one, about the French National Assembly news, you must have seen, if you can throw some light on it, did we protest, did we issue a demarche here in New Delhi or it was in Paris, what happened?

Official Spokesperson, Shri Raveesh Kumar: On the first question, there is no further update that I have at this moment. I can only tell you that there is a further communication going on between our High Commission in Islamabad and the Pakistani government. We have taken a conscious decision that that exchange will not be shared by us in a public platform. I think it is something which will be done through diplomatic channels, so that is going on.

On the second question, frankly, I am not aware about this specific case. I can only tell you that we greatly value the sensitivity which is shown by France and the support which France has time and again extended to India’s strategic interests.

Question: Taliban ka delegation pichhale dino Pakistan ke Videsh Mantri se milaa aur uske baad ye jaankaari mil rahii hai ki Taliban ka delegation US ke jo special representative hain Pakistan mein Mr. Khalilzad unse bhi mulaqat kiya. To Taliban ka ye samoocha jo ek tarah se moment hai aur jo ye development hai usko India kaise dekh rahaa hai, aur hum apne stake ko Afghanistan mein kis nazariye se dekh rahe hain. Kya hum bhi agar talks hote hain to uski party honge?

(Few days back Taliban delegation met with the foreign minister of Pakistan and after that we got the information that the Taliban delegation also met the special envoy on Afghanistan Mr. Khalilzad in Pakistan. So how does India see the this whole development related to Taliban and how are we looking at our stake in Afghanistan, if there are talks in future will we be a party to it?)

Official Spokesperson, Shri Raveesh Kumar: Ek to pahle main bataa doon ki mujhe nahi lagta ki yahaan se mere liye wazib hai ki main is par tippanii karoon ki Pakistan aur Taliban ke beech jo baatcheet chal rahii hai, aapko pataa hai ki bahut saare log is par baat kar rahe hain, bahut saare formats hain. Par generally main ye bataanaa chaahunga ki abhi hamaari jo position hai, kaafi developments hue hain Afghanistan mein aur uske baad hum kahaan hain.

Sabse pahle to ye ki jitne bhi is tarah ke dialogues hote hain unko hum bahut hi nazdeekii se dekhate hain, usko hum closely monitor karte hain. Doosara, hum sab jitne bhi stakeholders hain is process mein, sabke saath hamaare sambandh hain aur sabke saath hamare exchange of views hote hain, chaahe wo Afghanistan ho, US ho. Zalmay Khalilzad jo special enovy hain, unke saath kaafi baatein huii hain, US mein bhi yahaan bhi. Teesara hum bataanaa chaahenge ki hamaaraa ye maananaa hai ki jo Afghan ke jitne bhi sections hain, all sections of Afghan society including the legitimately elected government should be part of a peace process par iske baad jo chaar mukhya bindu hain, is par jo hamaari approach ko define karta hai usko main bataanaa chaahunga.

(First let me tell you that it is not appropriate for me to comment from here about the talks that have happened between Pakistan and Taliban, you know there are many dialogues happening on this issue and there are many formats. There have been many developments in Afghanistan recently and I would like to state the general position of India in this regard.

First, we keep a close watch on all the dialogues and discussions that happens on this matter, we monitor them very closely. Second, we have relations with all the stakeholders in this process and we exchange our views with them be it Afghanistan or the US. We have had many discussions with the special envoy Mr. Khalilzad both in US and in India. Third, we would like to tell that it is our belief that all the sections of Afghan society including the legitimately elected government should be a part of the peace process but after this I would like to inform you about the four main points which define our approach in this regard.

First of all the process should be respecting the constitutional legacy and the political mandate. Number two, which I have mentioned on the past that it should not leave any ungoverned spaces where terrorists and their proxies can operate and where they can create bases to target India. Number three, it should have the full consent of the Afghan people and the government of Afghanistan and number four, the last point, is that action should be taken against all terrorist groups without any distinction.

You are aware that we have consistently supported an early election. We are very happy that elections took place despite very challenging circumstances. We will continue to engage with any legitimate government which will assume power and we hope that some of the priorities and approach which we outline will be accommodated in any future peace process which comes into play in Afghanistan.

Question: Sab jaante hain ki Kashmir ek purely internal maamla hai aur fir Saudi Arabia se endorsement ya support seek karne kii koshish kar rahe hain, to iskii kitni importance hai aur kya requirement hai iski?

(Everybody knows that Kashmir is a purely internal issue of India and then everybody is trying to seek the endorsement or support from Saudi Arabia. So what is the importance of this and why is it required?)

Official Spokesperson, Shri Raveesh Kumar: Dekhiye, country specific bataanaa mushkil hoga par jaise aapne dekhaa hoga ki abhi hum UNGA mein they aur UNGA mein generally (See, it would be difficult to say specific country wise but you must have seen that recently we were at UNGA and there also generally)

We got widespread support on our stand and on the stand that what we have done in Jammu & Kashmir and Ladakh is an internal matter of India. And we have engaged across all the countries in the world. We have tried to explain our position, we have tried to explain the reasoning behind the steps which we have taken in Jammu & Kashmir and we are, in a way, quite satisfied with the response which we have got from the international community in this matter including Saudi Arabia.

Question: Can you please tell us what was discussed between the Home Minister and the External Affairs Minister today, was NRC discussed today?

Official Spokesperson, Shri Raveesh Kumar: I am not privy to that discussion. If you are referring to a meeting which might have just taken place I have not got any debriefing from him. So I am sorry I am not able to answer your question.

Question: UNGA mein PM Modi ke address ke ek din pahle ek khabar aai thii ki Pakistan ne approach kiyaa hai UNSC mein 1267 committee ko taaki 1.5 lakh rupaye har mahine Hafiz Saeed ko milta rahe. Lekin khabar ye bhi thii koi wahaan par koi objection nahiii hua, iske chalte UNSC ne allow kiyaa. To kya is baar Hafiz Saeed ke case mein Bharat support garner nahi kar payaa kyonki humne ye dekhaa ki Masood Azhar ke case mein hum Security Council ke member nahi they fir bhi humne support gather kiya, lekin Hafiz Saeed ke case mein aisa kyon nahi ho paya?

(One day prior to the Prime Minister Modi’s address at the UNGA there was a news that Pakistan has approached the UNSC 1267 Committee and requested that Hafiz Saeed should continue to get the allowance of Rs. 1.5 lakh per month. But the news also included that there was no objection and hence UNSC allowed it. So this type India failed to garner support in the case of Hafiz Saeed because in the case of Masood Azhar we, not being a member of the committee, were able to gather support but not this time in the case of Hafiz Saeed this time?)

Official Spokesperson, Shri Raveesh Kumar: Mujhe nahii lagta ki is baat ko is nazariye se dekhanaa chahiye. Do-teen cheezein jo Hafiz Saeed ke baare mein sabko pataa hai ki wo ek UN designated global terrorist hai, mastermind hai Mumbai terror attack ka, aur US Department of Treasury ne uske upar inaam bhi ghoshit kiyaa hai aur poore $10 million ka inaam hai.

Ab sthiti ye hai ki ek desh, ek application deta hai ek global terrorist ke behalf par UN Security Council kii Sanctions Committee ko ki inko pocket money diyaa jaaye. Bahut hi ajeeb sii sthiti hai aur sawaal ye hai ki Hafiz Saaed ko jo baaki saare aur terrorist hain unke jaise nahi treat karna chaahiye. Aur uske baad sawaal ye uthataa hai ki aap to application de rahe hain ki inko pocket money do aur uske baad app bolte hain ki jab hamara ye statement hota hai ki hum terrorist ke khilaaf action lete hain to aap vishwas nahi karte ho. Kaise koi vishwas karega? Yahi to duplicity hai. Ek taraf aap bolte hain aur karte kuchh aur hain, to ye mera jawaab hai aapke prashn par.

(I don’t think it should be seen in this context. There are two or three things, one that everybody knows that Hafiz Saeed is a UN designated global terrorist and he is the master mind of the Mumbai Terror attack and US Treasury Department has announced a reward of $10 million on him.

Now the situation is such that a country gives an application on behalf of a global terrorist to the UN Security Council committee that he should be given pocket money. It is a very extraordinary situation and the question arises that why Hafiz Saeed should not be treated as other terrorists. And after that the second question arises on one side you are giving an application for giving him pocket money and on the other side you tell everybody that when you people say that you take actions against terrorist then nobody believes you. How can anybody trust you? This is the duplicity, you say something and then you do something else. This is my answer to your question.)

Thank you all for joining.

(Concludes)